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Andrew Mellor

I wonder if the skip in Cleveland Square is an act of nostalgia too.

Did you see that TV series recently on which people 'restored' period properties and then a possy of experts put them right on the type of wooden pegging and cow dung they had used? Is that the other extreme, or is it exactly the same branch of obsessive recapturing that you're referring to?

In a way it boils down to the need for humans to be frank about the way this world operates. Shit happens - putting it crudely - and rather the architecture of a city reflect that than turn into an over-pruned 'set'.

Frank

You've made some great points. I wonder, however, if some of the 'facsimile' buildings you mention provide a pragmatic, indeed welcome, solution for those delapidated sites that may have otherwise have had something mediocre put there. I agree that the historical stage-set creation is not ideal, but isn't it better than contemporary banality?

JRWB

Andrew, I did see that programme. I would say that that probably is the other extreme of it; the obsessive conservation of every minor detail to the expense of the fact that people were actually planning to live there afterwards. I think that such people perform a valuable service, but you do wonder the value of say using lead based paint in what will be a nursery, just because that meets the original scheme of the house. (That is a completely invented example, though the programme wasn’t so far off it. Unfortunately my memory of the entire series has been reduced to a recurring nightmare about one of the expert's red trousers.)

Francis! Good to hear from you. I'm not sure that there is much of a difference between this kind of banality and the banality of any other mid budget, contemporary scheme. look at the buildings at Cleveland Square; the unit closest to the camera has that shorthand of quality building that you can see right across suburbia; the reclaimed brick. No sense of where these bricks have been reclaimed from, but it doesn’t matter because every fifth one is inexplicably white. Therefore, we know that it must be from the olden days (say it with reverence) even though genuine old buildings do not have this absurd feature. I don’t see this as any more banal that a contemporary development which is aping modern design. Essentially they are the same buildings wearing different clothes. The Casartelli building is essentially built with the same building methods as any modern apartment block. In a way, I almost (shudder) respect many of the new bland apartment blocks being thrown up around Liverpool, because at least they are honest about when they were built. Yes, there are far worse things occurring across the country; these show far more imagination than one would see on any housing estate, but they are at unfortunately infected with the same disease.

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